How's it look? ;3

Subject: How's it look? ;3 Sat May 02, 2009 10:43 pm

This is my Wifi team, I plan on making more teams, but this is my favorite one.

Claydol @ Lum Berry
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP/80 Def/176 Spd
Careful nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Explosion
- Reflect
- Light Screen
- Stealth Rock
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SleepyYet? (Crobat) (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Inner Focus
EVs: 124 HP/252 Spd/132 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Hypnosis
- Taunt
- U-turn
- Air Slash
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Hombre (Breloom) (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 48 HP/252 Atk/208 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Spore
- Focus Punch
- Seed Bomb
- Swords Dance
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FlcnPnch (Electivire) (M) @ Expert Belt
Ability: Motor Drive
EVs: 6 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Thunderpunch
- Ice Punch
- Cross Chop
- Earthquake
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Houdini (Alakazam) (M) @ Twisted Spoon
Ability: Inner Focus
EVs: 24 HP/216 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Substitute
- Encore
- Psychic
- Signal Beam
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LolYeti (Abomasnow) (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Snow Warning
EVs: 6 Atk/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Blizzard
- Leech Seed
- Focus Punch
- Substitute
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Subject: Re: How's it look? ;3 Sat May 02, 2009 10:53 pm

Why does Loom have SD as opposed to Sub?

And Spoon is a bad item for Zam.

Posts : 63 Join date : 2009-04-30 Age : 28

doesn't spoon lower accuracy?

Subject: Re: How's it look? ;3 Sun May 03, 2009 1:54 pm

SpiritofSteel wrote:: Why does Loom have SD as opposed to Sub?

And Spoon is a bad item for Zam.

SD instead of sub because it has spore, no need for sub and spore.

Also, not sure what item to use on Zam, suggest something?

Subject: Re: How's it look? ;3 Sun May 03, 2009 4:11 pm

I would go with Sub on Breloom over SD because they may wake up from spore

Subject: Re: How's it look? ;3 Sun May 03, 2009 10:53 pm

Breloom is WAY too slow to be a threat with SD anyway that's why sub is the better idea.

And for Zam...personally I like those Spec + Trick Zams.

Posts : 35 Join date : 2009-04-30

If you run Focus Punch on Breloom, you need to run Sub. If you want to run SD, you need to run Mach Punch. Those are pretty much the two ways you can go in this case. Also, unless you plan to send it in on a Toxic, I highly recommend going the route of a Toxic Orb over Leftovers on it.

With Kazam, I'd shoot for Wise Glasses at the very least. Maybe even Petaya Berry if you want a boost after you've put down enough subs.

Other than that, watch out for ghost and fire types. You actually don't have anything that resists either of those types. You also don't have any way to effectively hit most ghosts.

Pretty standard overall, if a bit lacking in places.

Subject: Re: How's it look? ;3 Mon May 04, 2009 5:00 pm

My Breloom on my wifi team has SD with MP, forgot about that.
Reason for Toxic Heal is because people keep using Toxic Spikes in the beginning for me, and not Stealth Rocks.

I'll take care of my Zam, and is there anyone in my team I should replace? If so, with who, I'll figure out evs, moves, nature, etc on it.

Posts : 35 Join date : 2009-04-30

To be honest, Abomasnow really seems out of place. It has a grand total of 7 weaknesses, and just about... none of your team benefits from him being there. If you want a SubSeeder, go for something that doesn't keep dropping hail on you.

Oh, and on a Dual Screening Claydol, you might want some Light Clay in the mix. It's incredible how much difference a few extra turns makes.

Subject: Re: How's it look? ;3 Tue May 05, 2009 8:51 pm

Mr. Whiscash wrote:: To be honest, Abomasnow really seems out of place. It has a grand total of 7 weaknesses, and just about... none of your team benefits from him being there. If you want a SubSeeder, go for something that doesn't keep dropping hail on you.

Oh, and on a Dual Screening Claydol, you might want some Light Clay in the mix. It's incredible how much difference a few extra turns makes.

Noted the Light Clay.

Also, what should I swap Abomasnow out for?

Posts : 35 Join date : 2009-04-30

Honestly, I have no idea. Maybe something that is a steel type to give you an Ice Resistant. You're seriously weak to one of THE key types in the game.

Subject: Re: How's it look? ;3 Wed May 06, 2009 5:15 pm

Mr. Whiscash wrote:: Honestly, I have no idea. Maybe something that is a steel type to give you an Ice Resistant. You're seriously weak to one of THE key types in the game.

I noticed that.
Mm, maybe Metagross? But that would make Zam not worth using wouldn't it?

Guest

wait if you say spoon is bad for zam? can you just put like a wise glasses on zam or something?

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Actually, Metagross is a really good replacement. It doesn't make Alakazam useless, because they both play completely different roles, and the Psychic weaknesses are canceled out by the Steel half of Metagross's typing.

Subject: Re: How's it look? ;3 Wed May 06, 2009 9:10 pm

Mr. Whiscash wrote:: Actually, Metagross is a really good replacement. It doesn't make Alakazam useless, because they both play completely different roles, and the Psychic weaknesses are canceled out by the Steel half of Metagross's typing.

Could have sworn Metagross is Psychic/Steel, isn't it? ._.

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StebenL wrote:

Mr. Whiscash wrote:: Actually, Metagross is a really good replacement. It doesn't make Alakazam useless, because they both play completely different roles, and the Psychic weaknesses are canceled out by the Steel half of Metagross's typing.

Could have sworn Metagross is Psychic/Steel, isn't it? ._.

It is psychic/steel, but it really only has the advantages of the Psychic type, not the downsides. The Steel half neutralizes the Psychic-type weaknesses.

Subject: Re: How's it look? ;3 Fri May 08, 2009 5:10 pm

Mr. Whiscash wrote:

StebenL wrote:

Mr. Whiscash wrote:: Actually, Metagross is a really good replacement. It doesn't make Alakazam useless, because they both play completely different roles, and the Psychic weaknesses are canceled out by the Steel half of Metagross's typing.

Could have sworn Metagross is Psychic/Steel, isn't it? ._.

It is psychic/steel, but it really only has the advantages of the Psychic type, not the downsides. The Steel half neutralizes the Psychic-type weaknesses.

Alright, any suggestions on what to put on it?

Subject: Re: How's it look? ;3 Sun May 10, 2009 8:03 pm

Well, if your using metagross, you could have an agilitygross with:

Adamant nature
Ability: Clear Body
Item Choice: Life Orb / Leftovers / Lum Berry as your item. (lum berry cures paralysis)
Ev's: 112 HP / 252 Atk / 12 Def / 132 Spe

Moveset:

~ Agility
~ Meteor Mash
~ Earthquake
~ ThunderPunch / Ice Punch / Fire Punch (as your only fire move so far) / Explosion

Its my favorite Gross and it really surprises oppenents

Also, if you use this type of metagross, feel free to feed me a rare candy! :P

Subject: Re: How's it look? ;3 Mon May 11, 2009 12:59 am

brawler1235 wrote:: Well, if your using metagross, you could have an agilitygross with:

Adamant nature
Ability: Clear Body
Item Choice: Life Orb / Leftovers / Lum Berry as your item. (lum berry cures paralysis)
Ev's: 112 HP / 252 Atk / 12 Def / 132 Spe

Moveset:

~ Agility
~ Meteor Mash
~ Earthquake
~ ThunderPunch / Ice Punch / Fire Punch (as your only fire move so far) / Explosion

Its my favorite Gross and it really surprises oppenents

Also, if you use this type of metagross, feel free to feed me a rare candy! :P

I may use this type, also gotta make a Hail, Sandstorm, and whatever else kind of team I can, thanks :D

Subject: Re: How's it look? ;3 Mon May 11, 2009 5:01 pm

no problem, happy to help :)

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why teach metagross Agility and not rock polish is it because they are both the same or what?

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Subject: Re: How's it look? ;3 Sun May 17, 2009 12:17 pm

[quote="emeraldshadowblaze"]why teach metagross Agility and not rock polish is it because they are both the same or what?

Lol, does it really matter?

Subject: Re: How's it look? ;3 Sun May 17, 2009 12:24 pm

brawler1235 wrote:

emeraldshadowblaze wrote:: why teach metagross Agility and not rock polish is it because they are both the same or what?

Lol, does it really matter?

It does. Agility has more PP but the exact same effect.

Quote :: Claydol @ Lum Berry
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP/80 Def/176 Spd
Careful nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Explosion
- Reflect
- Light Screen
- Stealth Rock

Not a good lead and there are very few Status leads after the Hypnosis accuracy drop, so it's a good idea to drop the Lum Berry for Light Clay and move this back in your party for Mid-Game to assist sweepers.
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SleepyYet? (Crobat) (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Inner Focus
EVs: 124 HP/252 Spd/132 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Hypnosis
- Taunt
- U-turn
- Air Slash

Lefties aren't as appreciated on something as frail as this, but it CAN be your lead. I'd change Air Slash for Brave Bird, make it Jolly Nature and give is Wide Lens, to increase Hypnosis to 66% accuracy. It can then lead you off, preventing SR or Spikes on you with Taunt, sleeping Metagross and Swampert Leads, then U-Turn out to something that can counter them.[/c]
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Hombre (Breloom) (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 48 HP/252 Atk/208 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Spore
- Focus Punch
- Seed Bomb
- Swords Dance

[b]Sub > SD or Mach Punch > Focus Punch. Period. I wouldn't suggest using this, though, because you have 3 Ice weak with it.
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FlcnPnch (Electivire) (M) @ Expert Belt
Ability: Motor Drive
EVs: 6 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Thunderpunch
- Ice Punch
- Cross Chop
- Earthquake

Only the mixed E-vire works at all anymore, and you need a wall breaker anyway:

Electivire @ Expert Belt/Life Orb
Motor Drive
Mild Nature
EVs: 36 Atk / 252 SpA / 220 Spe

Thunderbolt
Hidden Power [Grass/Ice]
Flamethrower
Cross Chop
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Houdini (Alakazam) (M) @ Twisted Spoon
Ability: Inner Focus
EVs: 24 HP/216 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Substitute
- Encore
- Psychic
- Signal Beam

Just...not a great set. Trick Specs is better, as Steel said.

Alazkazam @ Choice Specs
Inner Focus
Timid Nature
EVs: 6 HP/ 252 SpAtk/ 252 Spd

Psychic
Focus Blast
Shadow Ball
Trick

Neutrality is what you aim for when using choice items. Hence Ghost/fighting, and unresisted attack combination, and Psychic for STAB. Trick to cripple walls.
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LolYeti (Abomasnow) (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Snow Warning
EVs: 6 Atk/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Blizzard
- Leech Seed
- Focus Punch
- Substitute

Not well placed...Listen to Whiscash about Metagross. I'd say CB Gross or Mix Gross would be better for you than Agiligross, though.

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