GRAVITY!!!!!

Gravity Team
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FYI Gravity has the following effects:
All Pokemon become vulnerable to Ground-type moves.
The use of the moves Bounce, Fly, Splash, Hi Jump Kick, and Jump Kick is prevented.
The Evasion modifiers of all Pokemon are lowered by two.
(All move accuracies are boosted by 1.67x while Gravity is in play.)



Jirachi @ Shuca Berry (ground resist)
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP | 160 Def | 96 SDef
Careful nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Gravity
- U-turn
- Thunder
- Stealth Rock
---
So yeah he starts the gravity and thunder has 100 accuracy, along with serene grace boosting the paralysis rate.


Shaymin @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/6 SDef
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Grasswhistle
- Seed Flare
- Earth Power
- Rest
---
Main purpose: Absorb earthquakes. Also grasswhistle has 92 accuracy in gravity.(on hold)


Clefable @ Life orb / Leftovers
Ability: Magic Guard
Evs: 252 HP | 252 SpDef | 6 SpAtk
Calm nature (+SpDef, -Atk)
-Softboiled / Calm Mind
-Ice Beam
-Gravity
-Sing
---
Backup gravity and Special wall. Sing has a reliable 92% accuracy in gravity. But the other moves I'm not sure about :/


Mamoswine @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Snow Cloak
EVs: 4 Def | 252 Atk | 252 Spe
Jolly nature (+Spe, -SAtk)
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- Ice Shard
- Blizzard
---
The hard hitter/scarfer, Good ol' ice shard comes in handy too


Dusknoir @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP | 252 Def | 6 SDef
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Gravity
- Will-o-wisp
- Pain Split
- Shadow Sneak / Dynamic Punch
---
Backup gravity, also cleans up with shadow sneak if needed, and Dynamic Punch becomes a reliable 83% accuracy in gravity.Also is a physical wall and weakens with will-o-wisp

Metagross @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 112 HP/252 Atk/12 Def/134 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Meteor Mash
- Agility
- Explosion
---
Abusing gravity with unavoidable earthquakes and 100 accuracy meteor mash. Then finish up with explosion. Has a good potential to get rid of about half of the opponent's team. (on hold)



Dugtrio @ Choice Band
Ability: Arena Trap
EVs: 4 HP | 252 Atk | 252 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Sucker Punch
-Ariel Ace (huh idunno)
---
Revenge killer, and has a wider variety to kill thanks to gravity.
I don't like his frailty though...



Starmie @ Choice Scarf / Life Orb
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 6 HP | 252 Spd | 252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Blizzard
- Thunder
- Hydro Pump
- Grass Knot
---
Abusing the accuracy factor s'more along with the scarf to out speed them d-dancers and other scarfers.

Substitute for Starmie:

Porygon-Z @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Adaptibility / Download
6 HP | 252 SpAtk | 252 Spd
Modest Nature (+SpAtk, -Atk)
-Tri-Attack
-Thunder
-Blizzard
-Dark Pulse
---
Okay maybe all that speed from starmie may not be necessary. If I feel lucky enough I may put in download.(lately I've been downloading SpAtk most of the time) Still, he abuses the accuracy raising of Gravity and Stab Tri-Attack HURTS!!!

Pokemon that have failed me with gravity:
heracross
Pokemon that served me well, yet replaced:
Torterra, Gengar

I'm curious as to how Dugtrio failed you. I mean it's a Revenge killer of, well, everything while gravity is up.

Mr. Whiscash wrote:

I'm curious as to how Dugtrio failed you. I mean it's a Revenge killer of, well, everything while gravity is up.

Pretty much, everything Dugtrio did, Agiligross did better.
Dugtrio never lasts long, and Metagross can just explode.
So he failed in comparative efficiency.

Also, the main purpose for Dugtrio is to kill an individual for sure.
With gravity, all it does to dugtrio is give it more pokes availiable to kill, like gengar, zapdos, and rotom.

This is honestly the most interesting team i'v ever seen.

Every time during D/P/PT when you team up with the Proffesor's assistant and her clefairy uses gravity, im like "What the hell! Use freakin' metronome!!"


But now i see it can be used in a competative battle, so im curious to see how you came up with this idea.

brawler1235 wrote:

This is honestly the most interesting team i'v ever seen.

Every time during D/P/PT when you team up with the Proffesor's assistant and her clefairy uses gravity, im like "What the hell! Use freakin' metronome!!"


But now i see it can be used in a competative battle, so im curious to see how you came up with this idea.

Well most of my teams are orientated towards weather. I love usin weather! I gots teh sandstorm, hail, rain, even trick room! (sun doesn't have much potential in OU)
So then I'm like, "Ugh! I'm tired of all these weather teams now, I've (sorta) done 'em all!"
So one day I'm scrollin through Dusknoirs attacks and I notice Gravity!

Then I'm like, "heh nobody will expect this!" and I proceed to make an earthquake and spikes abusin team. It worked pretty darn well, especially after catching plenty people off guard!
Everyones like "WTF u just quaked mah Zapdos!" or "OH NO! My salamence got killed by spikes!!!"
Shortly Afterwards, I saw this! Newton's 2nd Law - A Guide to Gravity in Competitive Play

OMG IT LOWERS EVASION TOO!!! =0
I don't like to take risks. So I usually steer away from moves with less than 90 accuracy. Like hypnosis, stone edge, and moves like fire blast.
So the first thing I thought up was to abuse this accuracy factor and thus I added the Scarf Starmie with those 75 accuracy moves!
It's one of my key pokemon in this team.

So after considering the article, I made some adjustments and pretty much just removed the spike abusing factor (which I am currently regreting) and well, i'm currently trying out the pokemon the article has suggested.

Well, that's how I got interested (and sorta obsessed) with gravity! :D

And if you're intersted in gravity, I would suggest to have metagross and starmie as staples.

Finally someone else who uses a Gravity team

One recommendation though choice specs or life orb over scarf on starmie

HNTPG wrote:

Finally someone else who uses a Gravity team

One recommendation though choice specs or life orb over scarf on starmie

recommendation?
That ruins the whole idea on my starmie!
Did you even read the description under it?
Also, this starmie has 12.3% less damage output than the standard specs starmie. Not that significant if ya ask me.

I have two questions:

Does earthquake hit neutral damage to any poke that originally avoided it, regardless of the type?

Also, does spikes hurt neurtal damge too?

Ground is X1 effective to flying types regarding the immunity.
Spikes ALWAYS have a set amount of damage, they just hit flying/levitate under gravity. This also applies to toxic spikes too!

Tsutanai wrote:

Ground is X1 effective to flying types regarding the immunity.
Spikes ALWAYS have a set amount of damage, they just hit flying/levitate under gravity. This also applies to toxic spikes too!

Oh yea! I forgot that spikes had a set amount of damage. It just differed to the amount of layers you setup.


Anyways, i think i might try out a gravity team myself. I might also post it here too. (Don't worry, it won't be anything like yours) :P

So far, nobody has really helped me yet :(
I keep PWNing n00bs as usual, but against more skilled players, I keep struggling. I just now noticed a major fire weakness D=

How about that Ciaran guy? He looks professional.

Wouldn't a special mence be pretty good here? with moves like:fire blast, hydro pump,and dragon pulse?

Ciaran wrote:

Tsutanai wrote:

FYI Gravity has the following effects:
All Pokemon become vulnerable to Ground-type moves.
The use of the moves Bounce, Fly, Splash, Hi Jump Kick, and Jump Kick is prevented.
The Evasion modifiers of all Pokemon are lowered by two.
(All move accuracies are boosted by 1.67x while Gravity is in play.)

Jirachi @ Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP/160 Def/96 SDef
Careful nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Gravity
- U-turn
- Thunder
- Wish
---
Soo yeah he starts the gravity and thunder has 100 accuracy, along with serene grace boosting the paralysis rate.
I'm currently thinking about replacing wish

Wish should be replaced with Stealth Rock and consider changing out Lefties for Shuca Berry, to take EQs from lead Metagross.

Shaymin @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/6 SDef
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Grasswhistle
- Seed Flare
- Earth Power
- Rest
---
Main purpose: Absorb earthquakes. Also grasswhistle has 92 accuracy in gravity.
I would have torterra here, but I kinda need s'more special attackers.

Get rid of this. Period. Just get another gravity user in his place: Blissey and Clefable both work, and both can use Special Attacks, lol.

Mamoswine @ Leftovers
Ability: Snow Cloak
EVs: 156 HP/252 Atk/48 Def/54 SDef
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- Ice Shard
- Stealth Rock

Uh...He's pretty useful, ...but I think I need to replace him. The main thing I do with him is ice shard and scarcely stealth rock.
...actually, I'm thinkin of changin him to a max speed banded Mamo. Any thoughts?


Since you should be putting SR on Jirachi, swap it out for Blizzard or Superpower. Change out Lefties for CB, Scarf, or Life Orb. EVs should simply be 6 Def/ 252 Atk/ 252 Spd, Mamo is NOT meant to take hits.

Dusknoir @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP/80 Def/176 SDef
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Gravity
- Will-o-wisp
- Pain Split
- Shadow Sneak
---
Backup gravity, also cleans up with shadow sneak in needed.
I'm thinkin of replacing noir with Blissey, which can learn gravity as well.

Keep Noir here. Make it either Physically or specially defensive (I'd suggest Physically if because Blissey and CM Clefable both do the Special Walling better.

Metagross @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 112 HP/252 Atk/12 Def/134 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Meteor Mash
- Agility
- Explosion
---
Abusing gravity with unavoidable earthquakes and 100 accuracy meteor mash. Then finish up with explosion. Has a good potential to get rid of about half of the opponent's team.

Swap out for Duggy. Period. But note, Dugtrio is NOT, I repeat, NOT a sweeper. He is a revenge killer, and he prevents swap outs and CB Trio can OHKO T-tar with Earthquake. If he has failed you, you used him wrong. I.E. don't bring him in on Scizor, Mamoswine, Infernape, or Lucario unless they're Choiced onto something not priority.

Starmie @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 6 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Blizzard
- Thunder
- Hydro Pump
- Trick
---
Abusing the accuracy factor s'more along with the scarf to out speed them d-dancers and other scarfers.
Trick hasn't been much of use to me, any suggestions to replace this move?

Dragon Dancers should be taken care of by Mamoswine, meaning this should be used as your "cleanup hitter", your late game sweeper. Take of Scarf for Life Orb (as Starmie is plenty fast), and Trick for Grass Knot and you're good.

Or, you could run Porygon-Z in this guy's place:

Porygon-Z @ Choice Scarf (this guy is NOT plenty fast)
Adaptibility
Modest Nature
6 HP/ 252 SpAtk/ 252 Spd

Tri-Attack
Zap Cannon
Blizzard
Dark Pulse


Pokemon that have failed me with gravity:
Dugtrio, heracross
Pokemon that served me well, yet replaced:
Torterra, Gengar

mmkay, but what about people who decide to abuse earthquake? that's the reason for shaymin. I never used a special attacking blissey, how good are they?

I really want to keep using metagross. He's the reason why I usually win. He's never let me down and I don't really want to use dugtrio because he doesn't last long. Everyones all like pursuit and priority and stuff. I guess I could try revenge killing thier team to death. I just don't see that happening :/

i don't think mamoswine could take out a danced gyarados -_-

Tsutanai wrote:

Ciaran wrote:

Tsutanai wrote:

FYI Gravity has the following effects:
All Pokemon become vulnerable to Ground-type moves.
The use of the moves Bounce, Fly, Splash, Hi Jump Kick, and Jump Kick is prevented.
The Evasion modifiers of all Pokemon are lowered by two.
(All move accuracies are boosted by 1.67x while Gravity is in play.)

Jirachi @ Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP/160 Def/96 SDef
Careful nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Gravity
- U-turn
- Thunder
- Wish
---
Soo yeah he starts the gravity and thunder has 100 accuracy, along with serene grace boosting the paralysis rate.
I'm currently thinking about replacing wish

Wish should be replaced with Stealth Rock and consider changing out Lefties for Shuca Berry, to take EQs from lead Metagross.

Shaymin @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/6 SDef
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Grasswhistle
- Seed Flare
- Earth Power
- Rest
---
Main purpose: Absorb earthquakes. Also grasswhistle has 92 accuracy in gravity.
I would have torterra here, but I kinda need s'more special attackers.

Get rid of this. Period. Just get another gravity user in his place: Blissey and Clefable both work, and both can use Special Attacks, lol.

Mamoswine @ Leftovers
Ability: Snow Cloak
EVs: 156 HP/252 Atk/48 Def/54 SDef
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- Ice Shard
- Stealth Rock

Uh...He's pretty useful, ...but I think I need to replace him. The main thing I do with him is ice shard and scarcely stealth rock.
...actually, I'm thinkin of changin him to a max speed banded Mamo. Any thoughts?


Since you should be putting SR on Jirachi, swap it out for Blizzard or Superpower. Change out Lefties for CB, Scarf, or Life Orb. EVs should simply be 6 Def/ 252 Atk/ 252 Spd, Mamo is NOT meant to take hits.

Dusknoir @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP/80 Def/176 SDef
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Gravity
- Will-o-wisp
- Pain Split
- Shadow Sneak
---
Backup gravity, also cleans up with shadow sneak in needed.
I'm thinkin of replacing noir with Blissey, which can learn gravity as well.

Keep Noir here. Make it either Physically or specially defensive (I'd suggest Physically if because Blissey and CM Clefable both do the Special Walling better.

Metagross @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 112 HP/252 Atk/12 Def/134 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Meteor Mash
- Agility
- Explosion
---
Abusing gravity with unavoidable earthquakes and 100 accuracy meteor mash. Then finish up with explosion. Has a good potential to get rid of about half of the opponent's team.

Swap out for Duggy. Period. But note, Dugtrio is NOT, I repeat, NOT a sweeper. He is a revenge killer, and he prevents swap outs and CB Trio can OHKO T-tar with Earthquake. If he has failed you, you used him wrong. I.E. don't bring him in on Scizor, Mamoswine, Infernape, or Lucario unless they're Choiced onto something not priority.

Starmie @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 6 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Blizzard
- Thunder
- Hydro Pump
- Trick
---
Abusing the accuracy factor s'more along with the scarf to out speed them d-dancers and other scarfers.
Trick hasn't been much of use to me, any suggestions to replace this move?

Dragon Dancers should be taken care of by Mamoswine, meaning this should be used as your "cleanup hitter", your late game sweeper. Take of Scarf for Life Orb (as Starmie is plenty fast), and Trick for Grass Knot and you're good.

Or, you could run Porygon-Z in this guy's place:

Porygon-Z @ Choice Scarf (this guy is NOT plenty fast)
Adaptibility
Modest Nature
6 HP/ 252 SpAtk/ 252 Spd

Tri-Attack
Zap Cannon
Blizzard
Dark Pulse


Pokemon that have failed me with gravity:
Dugtrio, heracross
Pokemon that served me well, yet replaced:
Torterra, Gengar

mmkay, but what about people who decide to abuse earthquake? that's the reason for shaymin. I never used a special attacking blissey, how good are they?

I really want to keep using metagross. He's the reason why I usually win. He's never let me down and I don't really want to use dugtrio because he doesn't last long. Everyones all like pursuit and priority and stuff. I guess I could try revenge killing thier team to death. I just don't see that happening :/

i don't think mamoswine could take out a danced gyarados -_-

They don't abuse Earthquake. You do. They're not prepared for Gravity situations. You are. And if you're worried about it, then WHY THE FUCK DO YOU CARRY TWO STEEL TYPES WHO ARE WEAK TO EARTHQUAKE?

Mamoswine CAN take it with a CS and Steon Edge. Quite easily, in fact. But if you're THAT worried about Gyarados bulk Starmie up to counter it, it's not hard and even in Gravity Flying types don't lose their Electric, Rock, and Ice weaknesses.

You don't revenge kill to death, you revenge kill to remove threats that are harder to deal with. Like Gyarados or T-tar. If they bring in a Pursuiter after you revenge kill one of their guys, ATTACK. An unboosted Pursuit won't do crap (meaning to Duggy around 50%) and you might just get a free KO, or almost KO. Then they'll expect another attack and use their priority or regular attacking move (unless they're choice lol) and if you predict well Duggy is a VALUABLE asset, as is anything that can trap and has STAB EQ.

Ciaran wrote:

Tsutanai wrote:

mmkay, but what about people who decide to abuse earthquake? that's the reason for shaymin. I never used a special attacking blissey, how good are they?

I really want to keep using metagross. He's the reason why I usually win. He's never let me down and I don't really want to use dugtrio because he doesn't last long. Everyones all like pursuit and priority and stuff. I guess I could try revenge killing thier team to death. I just don't see that happening :/

i don't think mamoswine could take out a danced gyarados -_-

They don't abuse Earthquake. You do. They're not prepared for Gravity situations. You are. And if you're worried about it, then WHY THE FUCK DO YOU CARRY TWO STEEL TYPES WHO ARE WEAK TO EARTHQUAKE?

Mamoswine CAN take it with a CS and Steon Edge. Quite easily, in fact. But if you're THAT worried about Gyarados bulk Starmie up to counter it, it's not hard and even in Gravity Flying types don't lose their Electric, Rock, and Ice weaknesses.

You don't revenge kill to death, you revenge kill to remove threats that are harder to deal with. Like Gyarados or T-tar. If they bring in a Pursuiter after you revenge kill one of their guys, ATTACK. An unboosted Pursuit won't do crap (meaning to Duggy around 50%) and you might just get a free KO, or almost KO. Then they'll expect another attack and use their priority or regular attacking move (unless they're choice lol) and if you predict well Duggy is a VALUABLE asset, as is anything that can trap and has STAB EQ.

Maximum attack (life orbed) dugtrio can't ohko gyrados T-T
Also mamoswine has 80 base speed. While Gyrados has 81.
A choice scarf won't help here. Although I've calced that it will be an easy ohko.

well i'm just gonna forget about gyrados for now heh heh.

anyway, I have encountered people who abused e-quake on me, which was a problem, now I've got shaymin. He does his job well I'll tell you what! Then My strategy usually follows with a 92 accuracy grasswhistle, and then a switch to agiligross or try to get another gravity up.
anyway, I really want to keep metagross. I'll try dugtio out again I suppose.

Tsutanai wrote:

Ciaran wrote:

Tsutanai wrote:

mmkay, but what about people who decide to abuse earthquake? that's the reason for shaymin. I never used a special attacking blissey, how good are they?

I really want to keep using metagross. He's the reason why I usually win. He's never let me down and I don't really want to use dugtrio because he doesn't last long. Everyones all like pursuit and priority and stuff. I guess I could try revenge killing thier team to death. I just don't see that happening :/

i don't think mamoswine could take out a danced gyarados -_-

They don't abuse Earthquake. You do. They're not prepared for Gravity situations. You are. And if you're worried about it, then WHY THE FUCK DO YOU CARRY TWO STEEL TYPES WHO ARE WEAK TO EARTHQUAKE?

Mamoswine CAN take it with a CS and Steon Edge. Quite easily, in fact. But if you're THAT worried about Gyarados bulk Starmie up to counter it, it's not hard and even in Gravity Flying types don't lose their Electric, Rock, and Ice weaknesses.

You don't revenge kill to death, you revenge kill to remove threats that are harder to deal with. Like Gyarados or T-tar. If they bring in a Pursuiter after you revenge kill one of their guys, ATTACK. An unboosted Pursuit won't do crap (meaning to Duggy around 50%) and you might just get a free KO, or almost KO. Then they'll expect another attack and use their priority or regular attacking move (unless they're choice lol) and if you predict well Duggy is a VALUABLE asset, as is anything that can trap and has STAB EQ.

Maximum attack (life orbed) dugtrio can't ohko gyrados T-T
Also mamoswine has 80 base speed. While Gyrados has 81.
A choice scarf won't help here. Although I've calced that it will be an easy ohko.

well i'm just gonna forget about gyrados for now heh heh.

anyway, I have encountered people who abused e-quake on me, which was a problem, now I've got shaymin. He does his job well I'll tell you what! Then My strategy usually follows with a 92 accuracy grasswhistle, and then a switch to agiligross or try to get another gravity up.
anyway, I really want to keep metagross. I'll try dugtio out again I suppose.

You don't Life Orb Duggy! EVER! Choice Band!!!!

Scarf DOES matter, btw. Gyarados generally run Adamant. Go Jolly with enough speed to outspeed it after a DD, then pump the rest into bulk and max out Atk. THERE YOU GO, GYARADOS SOLUTION.

Ciaran wrote:

Tsutanai wrote:

Ciaran wrote:

Tsutanai wrote:

mmkay, but what about people who decide to abuse earthquake? that's the reason for shaymin. I never used a special attacking blissey, how good are they?

I really want to keep using metagross. He's the reason why I usually win. He's never let me down and I don't really want to use dugtrio because he doesn't last long. Everyones all like pursuit and priority and stuff. I guess I could try revenge killing thier team to death. I just don't see that happening :/

i don't think mamoswine could take out a danced gyarados -_-

They don't abuse Earthquake. You do. They're not prepared for Gravity situations. You are. And if you're worried about it, then WHY THE FUCK DO YOU CARRY TWO STEEL TYPES WHO ARE WEAK TO EARTHQUAKE?

Mamoswine CAN take it with a CS and Steon Edge. Quite easily, in fact. But if you're THAT worried about Gyarados bulk Starmie up to counter it, it's not hard and even in Gravity Flying types don't lose their Electric, Rock, and Ice weaknesses.

You don't revenge kill to death, you revenge kill to remove threats that are harder to deal with. Like Gyarados or T-tar. If they bring in a Pursuiter after you revenge kill one of their guys, ATTACK. An unboosted Pursuit won't do crap (meaning to Duggy around 50%) and you might just get a free KO, or almost KO. Then they'll expect another attack and use their priority or regular attacking move (unless they're choice lol) and if you predict well Duggy is a VALUABLE asset, as is anything that can trap and has STAB EQ.

Maximum attack (life orbed) dugtrio can't ohko gyrados T-T
Also mamoswine has 80 base speed. While Gyrados has 81.
A choice scarf won't help here. Although I've calced that it will be an easy ohko.

well i'm just gonna forget about gyrados for now heh heh.

anyway, I have encountered people who abused e-quake on me, which was a problem, now I've got shaymin. He does his job well I'll tell you what! Then My strategy usually follows with a 92 accuracy grasswhistle, and then a switch to agiligross or try to get another gravity up.
anyway, I really want to keep metagross. I'll try dugtio out again I suppose.

You don't Life Orb Duggy! EVER! Choice Band!!!!

Scarf DOES matter, btw. Gyarados generally run Adamant. Go Jolly with enough speed to outspeed it after a DD, then pump the rest into bulk and max out Atk. THERE YOU GO, GYARADOS SOLUTION.

I've always regretted choicing dugtrio...

Tsutanai wrote:

Ciaran wrote:

Tsutanai wrote:

Ciaran wrote:

Tsutanai wrote:

mmkay, but what about people who decide to abuse earthquake? that's the reason for shaymin. I never used a special attacking blissey, how good are they?

I really want to keep using metagross. He's the reason why I usually win. He's never let me down and I don't really want to use dugtrio because he doesn't last long. Everyones all like pursuit and priority and stuff. I guess I could try revenge killing thier team to death. I just don't see that happening :/

i don't think mamoswine could take out a danced gyarados -_-

They don't abuse Earthquake. You do. They're not prepared for Gravity situations. You are. And if you're worried about it, then WHY THE FUCK DO YOU CARRY TWO STEEL TYPES WHO ARE WEAK TO EARTHQUAKE?

Mamoswine CAN take it with a CS and Steon Edge. Quite easily, in fact. But if you're THAT worried about Gyarados bulk Starmie up to counter it, it's not hard and even in Gravity Flying types don't lose their Electric, Rock, and Ice weaknesses.

You don't revenge kill to death, you revenge kill to remove threats that are harder to deal with. Like Gyarados or T-tar. If they bring in a Pursuiter after you revenge kill one of their guys, ATTACK. An unboosted Pursuit won't do crap (meaning to Duggy around 50%) and you might just get a free KO, or almost KO. Then they'll expect another attack and use their priority or regular attacking move (unless they're choice lol) and if you predict well Duggy is a VALUABLE asset, as is anything that can trap and has STAB EQ.

Maximum attack (life orbed) dugtrio can't ohko gyrados T-T
Also mamoswine has 80 base speed. While Gyrados has 81.
A choice scarf won't help here. Although I've calced that it will be an easy ohko.

well i'm just gonna forget about gyrados for now heh heh.

anyway, I have encountered people who abused e-quake on me, which was a problem, now I've got shaymin. He does his job well I'll tell you what! Then My strategy usually follows with a 92 accuracy grasswhistle, and then a switch to agiligross or try to get another gravity up.
anyway, I really want to keep metagross. I'll try dugtio out again I suppose.

You don't Life Orb Duggy! EVER! Choice Band!!!!

Scarf DOES matter, btw. Gyarados generally run Adamant. Go Jolly with enough speed to outspeed it after a DD, then pump the rest into bulk and max out Atk. THERE YOU GO, GYARADOS SOLUTION.

I've always regretted choicing dugtrio...

...Choice items in general are only workable in combination with strong prediction skills. Dugtrio is a BEAST with a Choice Band. No arguments about it.

I'm just dropping by to say that I think Gravity is extremely interesting. I have made a couple myself, although they all failed (although that was like when I was a complete newb to battling). I'll try making one myself, although I won't copy much of this (I personally like Dugtrio).

alright I made some new additions. Let me know what U people think!