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 Thunderbolt Out Of The Blue [OU RMT]

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PostSubject: Thunderbolt Out Of The Blue [OU RMT]   Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:08 am


Salamence had just been banned, and so Shaymin usage was on the rise. I went to the BL section of Smogon to look at it's analysis and just below it I saw Raikou, who I had not touched since it left UU. Out of curiosity, I clicked the analysis and looked around. It seemed to be a frailer but more powerful FastCune. I wasn't fond of Fast Cune because of it's lack of Speed but Raikou had that. I thought for a minute then decided to make a team around it. I chose the Sub CM set as it was the set I used while Raikou was in UU and it still works fabulously in OU. I decided the set would work with Toxic Spikes, therefore it turned somewaht into a semi stall team. This RMT is probably my best yet, so I hope you'll rate it. I'm still to add the team building, but the team itself are already here. Anyway, enough talking, on with the team.

The Team

Roserade (M) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 4 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Toxic Spikes
- Sleep Powder
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Leaf Storm

Roserade is a key member, with luck it can disable an opponents team member with it's 75% accuracy sleep move and set up Toxic Spikes. The rest of the team rely on Roserade so a strong start with Roserade is vital. Leaf Storm packs a Punch and can KO a lot of neutral foes, severely damaging the others. HP Ice helps me against other Roserade leads because HP Fire is the standard, and lowers their Speed IV. That means I can sleep them before they sleep me.

Gengar (M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 Def/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt
- Focus Blast
- Trick

Gengar is my revenge killer and one of my weapons against stall teams. Shadow Ball hurts coming off a Base 130 Special Attack, and can KO a lot of weakened foes. The Ghost typing helps me get take Explosions without Metagross taking a huge hit. Thunderbolt helps me revenge killer Gyara with one DD and hit Bulky Waters respectably hard. Focus Blast is for Steel types that resist Gengars primary STAB, although the accuracy is a huge turn off. Why can't Gengar have Aura Sphere? Trick can lock Pokes into set up moves, and Gengar can often gain Leftovers out of them.

Gliscor (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Veil
EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Taunt
- Earthquake
- Roost
- Stealth Rock

This thing is really what saves the team against stall. Taunt stops Blissey from statusing my team, and can absorb Thunderwaves on the switch in. It is also responable for setting up my final hazard, Stealth Rock, a must have for every team. Earthquake is my only attack, but I'm considering putting in U-Turn here. Roost helps Gliscor stay healthy. He is also my primary counter for SD Lucario, even though Agility Luke kills him with Ice Punch.

Metagross @ Shuca Berry
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP/80 Atk/176 SDef
Adamant nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Meteor Mash
- Thunderpunch
- Bullet Punch
- Ice Punch

This thing was a late edition, and pretty much the backbone of the team. I tested SubCM Rachi here, but found this thing functions better. I found this on ST's Pokemorphs RMT. It checks a lot of stuff, Meteor Mash and Bullet Punch KO a lot of Pokemon, and with a possible Attack boost anything that doesn't resist it isn't gonna like it, with the highest attack of any OU Pokemon it really Punches holes. However it's main purpose is to counter threats, Gyarados and Dragonite at +1 get taken down by Thunder Punch and Ice Punch, for example. It's just a really good Pokemon in general.

Gyarados (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk/88 Def/168 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Waterfall
- Earthquake
- Bounce

This seems odd, but it works. Bounce causes switches, meaning Toxic Spikes affect more Pokemon, and make them lose more HP. Make it a boosted hit and nothing's gonna be too happy unless it's a Skarmory. waterfall is for STAB and Earthquake hit's not floating Steels. The EVs allow Gyara to outsepped Timid Jolteton after a Dragon Dance. This thing is the secondery sweeper of my team and works amazingly with Raikou and Roserade.

Raikou @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Thunderbolt
- Substitute
-Hidden Power [Ice]

Setting up a Sub is priority over getting up Calm Minds, as the Substitue stops me from being Toxiced, and allows me to scout out foes. With a few CMs the Subs are hard to break with the special side. And with a very nice speed, and a high Special Attack, Thunderbolt will rip though teams. Hidden Power Ice may be something I cchange to deal with Swampert, as most Flygon’s are Scarfed, and Dragonite is hurt enough by Thunderbolt already, but I’m not sure.

Threat List

Abomasnow: Roserade beats it as a lead, Metagross beats it outside the lead position.
Aerodactyl: I usually just HP Ice twice with Roserade. If they set up Rocks first turn I try and Sleep Powder them, then set up Toxic Spikes.
Azelf: Hidden Power Ice then Sleep Powder. Outside of lead, Gengar kills it is the sash is broken and can take an Explosion.
Blissey: Toxic Spikes wear it down when it tries to wall Raikou or Gyarados, Gliscor can stop it from statusing with Taunt.
Breloom: I let Roserade take the sleep because of Natural Cure then go out to Gengar to beat it.
Bronzong: It can wall me a bit, but can't do much in return.
Celebi: Gengar, Gliscor Taunts it. Raikou and Gyarados if they've set up a bit.
Dragonite: Roserade, Metagross, Gyarados' Intimidate, and Raikou.
Flygon: Roserade, Metagross.
Forretress: Gliscor Taunts, then I just go from there, knowing it can't do much besides Explode.
Gengar: Metagross' EVs allow it to take 2 Focus Blast from the non Specs sets, Gengar can revenge.
Gliscor: Roserade, Metagross, Raikou.
Gyarados: Metagross, Gengar.
Heatran: Gyarados, Gliscor cancome in on Earth Power and EQ it, Gengar revenge kills it.
Heracross: Gliscor, if this thing is dead Gyara can check it if it comes in on hte right move but it can cause a lot of mdamage if played correctly.
Hippowdon: Usually leads, and gets beaten and set up on by Roserade.
Infernape: Gyarados, with a defense drop and after LO recoil Meta's Bullet Punch. Gengar can revenge it.
Jirachi: Scarf sets are annoying, but with prediction I can play around them. The CM sets really hurt the team however.
Jolteon: Gliscor if it's Specs or it carries HP Grass.If Gyarados can get i against a Specs set not using T-Bolt he can set up on it or just kill it.
Kingdra: Metagross beats the ones stuck on Outrage, Gyarados' Intimidate negates the DD's attack boost and Gengar outspeeds even after a DD.
Lucario: Gengar if it doens't have Bullet Punch, Gyarados, Gliscor beats the SD Lukes.
Machamp: If it comes in late game on full health or as a lead it usually causes a lot of damage but can be played around with prediction.
Magnezone: Gengar, Gliscor, Raikou walls it and sets up on it, Gyara can beat the Steel Killer set.
Mamoswine: Leads eat a Leaf Storm, Metagross and Gyarados kill it outright if Metagross can avoid eating a CB EQ if it has it's berry.
Metagross: Gyarados, Gengar can do a bit on the revenge kill, Gliscor if it doesn't carry Ice Punch.
Rotom-A: Gengar, everyone else can just pound it with their strongest moves except Gliscor.
Scizor: Gliscor absorbs U-Turns, Gyara Intimidates and if it keeps in good health won't be KOes by the Bullet Punch later. Metagross can take CB Bullet Punches and get it to switch, but can't do much back.
Skarmory: Gliscor Taunts, Gengar, Raikou.
Snorlax: Toxic Spikes help me beat it, and Gengar 2HKOs with Focus Blast. Everyone else just punds away at it.
Starmie: Gengar revenges, Roserade if it still has it's Sash, Raikou.
Suicune: Raikou, Gengar Tricks and Gliscor Taunts. Not much can take this.
Swampert: With Toxic Spikes they die eventually, I just whittle away with them as they come in to take hits for the team.
Togekiss: Roserade, Gengar, Raikou, Metagross. If they are haxed too much however it can get ugly.
Tyranitar: Metagross, Gengar does a lot with Focus Blast, Gyarados if it's Choiced into any move other than Stone Edge.
Zapdos: It's not something I like facing, but after I figure out the set I just go form there. I do need some help with this guy.
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PostSubject: Re: Thunderbolt Out Of The Blue [OU RMT]   Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:47 pm

Only a nitpick: I suggest you change EQ to Taunt. Taunt really destroys all Stall teams, and to be honest, ScarfTar, Gliscor, and Vaporeon, the defensive trio, will still beat Gliscor and Gengar, your two main ways of defeating it. If you give Gyarados Taunt, you can easily get a set-up opportunity to either Raikou or Gyarados, depending on the Pokemon. +1 Taunt Gyarados defeats the aforementioned trio, and not to mention Waterfall and Bounce have great coverage. You now can defeat Breloom, who causes problems to any team, despite the description you gave.

Anyway, great team and good luck.
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PostSubject: Re: Thunderbolt Out Of The Blue [OU RMT]   Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:55 pm

Thakns Slash, I'll test it. And happy birthday by the way.
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PostSubject: Re: Thunderbolt Out Of The Blue [OU RMT]   Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:30 pm

Amphy wrote:
Thakns Slash, I'll test it. And happy birthday by the way.

Thanks, dude. I just made a team based off of this one. Raikou and Bulky Gyarados, and I honestly have to say that the core rocks, so great for you for finding it.
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PostSubject: Re: Thunderbolt Out Of The Blue [OU RMT]   Tue Aug 03, 2010 12:38 am

Alright. I'm bumping this because I want it to get more rates and changes, if possible before I move it to the Archives. It will be moved sometime in the near future, as this team is great.
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PostSubject: Re: Thunderbolt Out Of The Blue [OU RMT]   Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:10 pm

Gimme some time to post the team building man XD

Nah, I can't be bothered right now.
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