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PostSubject: Rate My Monotype (steel) shoddy team   Rate My Monotype (steel) shoddy team I_icon_minitimeSun May 17, 2009 3:46 am

Hey This is emeraldshadowblaze and now i am revealing my ground pokemon team and this team so thats about and i hope u like it!

My Steel Pokemon Team!


Bastiodon@???
Ability - Sturdy
Nature - Impish
Item - Leftovers
EV - None!
- Avalanche
- Metal Burst
- Rest
- Taunt


Magnezone@???
Ability - Magnet Pull
Nature - Mild
Item - Wise Glasses
EV - None!
- Flash Cannon
- Manget Rise
- Thunderbolt
- Tri Attack


Lucario@???
Ability - Steadfast
Nature - Lonely
Item - Expert Belt
EV - None!
- Blaze Kick
- Bullet Punch
- Close Combat
- Swords Dance


Scizor@???
Ability - Technician
Nature - Naughty
Item - Choice Band
EV - None!
- Brick Break
- Bullet Punch
- Quick Attack
- X-Scissor


Empoleon@???
Ability - Torrent
Nature - Brave
Item - Focus Sash
EV - None!
- Aqua Jet
- Drill Peck
- Earthquake
- Swords Dance


Metagross@???
Ability - Adamant
Nature - Clear Body
Item - Leftovers
EV - None!
- Ice Punch
- Iron Head
- Meteor Mash
- Rock Polish


I Hope U Like My Steel team N if there is something that u want add on the EV or change the moves anything like that plz tell me i will help u alright :D
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PostSubject: Re: Rate My Monotype (steel) shoddy team   Rate My Monotype (steel) shoddy team I_icon_minitimeSun May 17, 2009 10:45 am

Wow. Sorry if I come off harsh.

1. Bastiodon sucks. Period. He's 4x weak to two of Steels most common weaknesses! Fighting AND Ground. And with no EVs, he's going down faster than a drunk, loose slut on Sean Connery. Never use him in OU. Ever. If you want a Steel type lead:

Metagross @ Occa Berry
Clear Body
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SpAtk)
EVs: 252 HP/ 236 Atk/ 8 Def/ 12 Spd

Stealth Rock
Bullet Punch
Explosion
Earthquake


-or-


Jirachi @ Choice Scarf
Serene Grace
Joll Nature (+Spd, -SpAtk)
EVs: 80 HP/ 252 Atk/ 176 Spd

Iron Head
Trick
Stealth Rock
U-Turn

Both are more viable that your current lead by a LONG stretch.

2. Magnezone is the best Steel Trapper in the game, so he's good because almost all teams have 2-3 Steel types in their teams, and 1/3 teams carries Scizor now. But your set sucks ass.

Magnezone @ Choice Scarf
Magnet Pull
Naive Nature (+Spd, -SpDef)
EVs: 132 Atk/ 252 SpAtk/ 124 Spd

Explosion
Hidden Power [Fire]
Thunderbolt
Flash Cannon

Outspeeds Jolly Lucario and everything below it, that's as fast as you need it. Max SpAtk and the rest is pumped into Atkfor a stronger Explosion. Scizor destroyer.

3. Lucario...Something so versatile deserves a decent set.

Lucario @ Life Orb
Inner Focus (ALWAYS Inner Focus)
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SpAtk)
EVs: 252 Atk/ 6 Def/ 252 Spd

Swords Dance
Close Combat
Crunch
Extreme Speed

This is the Standard LO/SD Lucario. One of the best late game sweepers ever. However, this is steel and there are few Special Attackers, hence a Special Lucario may be more productive.

Lucario @ Life Orb/Choice Specs
Inner Focus
Modest/Timid Nature (+SpAtk/+Spd, -Atk)
EVs: 6 Def/ 252 SpAtk/ 252 Spd

Aura Sphere
Shadow Ball
Hidden Power [Grass]
Vacuum Wave/Dragon Pulse

4. Scizor is the least bad of your guys. But he's still horrendous.

Scizor @ Choice Band
Technician
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SpAtk)
EVs: 248 HP/ 252 Atk/ 8 Spe

Bullet Punch
U-Turn
Brick Break/Superpower
Pursuit

Standard CB Scizor. Or you could go with my personal favorite Scizor:

Scizor @ Life Orb
Technician
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
EVs: 252 HP/ 56 Atk/ 188 SpD/ 12 Spe

Bullet Punch
Pursuit
U-turn
Roost

More utility than the Standard.

5. Empoleon's BEST set is Agility with 3 Atks.

Empoleon @ Life Orb
Torrent
Modest Nature (+SpAtk, -Atk)
EVs: 46 HP/ 252 SpAtk/ 212 Spd

Agility
Surf/Hydro Pump
Grass Knot
Ice Beam

Enough speed to outrun ScarfTran after an Agility, and can OHKO with Surf. Life Orb for more power and Torrent Activates faster with it, letting your Sweep be even harder to stop without a strong Mach Puncher.

6. Metagross I covered, so I'm going to go on to something no Steel Team should be without:

Heatran @ Leftovers
Flash Fire
Modest Nature (+SpAtk, -Atk)
EVs: 6 HP/ 252 SpAtk/ 252 Spd

Substitute
Toxic
Fire Blast/Flamethrower
Earth Power

Covers fire weakness perfectly, and has good synergy with Scizor.



Final Thoughts:
-I would suggest Skarmory or Bronzong to remove your amazing Ground weakness, especially since you should be carrying Tran and Magnezone to defend against Fire and Electric moves.
-The team lacks any real synergy. I'd restart from the ground up, to be honest.
- I don't mean to sound harsh or mean. Just blunt.
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PostSubject: Re: Rate My Monotype (steel) shoddy team   Rate My Monotype (steel) shoddy team I_icon_minitimeSun May 17, 2009 11:01 am

Ciaran wrote:
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I agree.
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PostSubject: Re: Rate My Monotype (steel) shoddy team   Rate My Monotype (steel) shoddy team I_icon_minitimeMon May 18, 2009 11:11 am

Hey Guys U Know What! ... I am thanking u guys for helping out my (mono) steel type pokemon team! N one more thing that I want say is that, What did you mean by lack of real synergy? AND thats the main thing that I want to find out? :bball:



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PostSubject: Re: Rate My Monotype (steel) shoddy team   Rate My Monotype (steel) shoddy team I_icon_minitimeMon May 18, 2009 12:47 pm

emeraldshadowblaze wrote:
Hey Guys U Know What! ... I am thanking u guys for helping out my (mono) steel type pokemon team! N one more thing that I want say is that, What did you mean by lack of real synergy? AND thats the main thing that I want to find out? :bball:
Synergy is how well pokemon work together. Like Gyarados and Electivire/Jolteon. Or Scizor/Skarmory/Bronzong and Heatran.
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PostSubject: Re: Rate My Monotype (steel) shoddy team   Rate My Monotype (steel) shoddy team I_icon_minitimeMon May 18, 2009 4:37 pm

If this is your gym team, you can have 1 wildcard pokemon too.

I would definatly go with what Ciaran said, but he doesn't have any definat walls. That is why i think that you should bring in a bronzong or a skarmory. They resist ground moves and can really help your team.
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PostSubject: Re: Rate My Monotype (steel) shoddy team   Rate My Monotype (steel) shoddy team I_icon_minitimeMon May 18, 2009 5:44 pm

brawler1235 wrote:
If this is your gym team, you can have 1 wildcard pokemon too.

I would definatly go with what Ciaran said, but he doesn't have any definat walls. That is why i think that you should bring in a bronzong or a skarmory. They resist ground moves and can really help your team.

If it a steel type gym then I would suggest a water type like Feraligater to resist the fire-type attacks.
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brawler1235 wrote:
If this is your gym team, you can have 1 wildcard pokemon too.

I would definatly go with what Ciaran said, but he doesn't have any definat walls. That is why i think that you should bring in a bronzong or a skarmory. They resist ground moves and can really help your team.
Balanced teams (2 Special Sweeper, 1 Special Wall, 2 Physical Sweepers, 1 Physical Wall) don't work when you get to play better players. It's all about prediction and offense. The metagame is all about how much damage you can do and how fast/consistently you can do it. Unless you play stall. That's something totally different.
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Ciaran wrote:
brawler1235 wrote:
If this is your gym team, you can have 1 wildcard pokemon too.

I would definatly go with what Ciaran said, but he doesn't have any definat walls. That is why i think that you should bring in a bronzong or a skarmory. They resist ground moves and can really help your team.
Balanced teams (2 Special Sweeper, 1 Special Wall, 2 Physical Sweepers, 1 Physical Wall) don't work when you get to play better players. It's all about prediction and offense. The metagame is all about how much damage you can do and how fast/consistently you can do it. Unless you play stall. That's something totally different.
Yea, lol, i'v been playing too much Uu and Nu.... 0____0
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brawler1235 wrote:
Ciaran wrote:
brawler1235 wrote:
If this is your gym team, you can have 1 wildcard pokemon too.

I would definatly go with what Ciaran said, but he doesn't have any definat walls. That is why i think that you should bring in a bronzong or a skarmory. They resist ground moves and can really help your team.
Balanced teams (2 Special Sweeper, 1 Special Wall, 2 Physical Sweepers, 1 Physical Wall) don't work when you get to play better players. It's all about prediction and offense. The metagame is all about how much damage you can do and how fast/consistently you can do it. Unless you play stall. That's something totally different.
Yea, lol, i'v been playing too much Uu and Nu.... 0____0
It's not that walls are bad, it's just that on some teams they're not necessary. And I happen to have had a lot more fun with a more offensive playing style lately, so I'm rating to that end more often than not. If you want something more balanced I can try to help, but Skarm just doesn't do the job well enough. Bronzong outclasses it by a wide margin.
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cool a 1 wildcard pokemon thanks i bet that didn`t know that! But by the way (what did u mean by wildcard pokemon?) :?:

And 1 More Thing i am showing my new steel team for now!


Bronzong
Magnezone
Scizor
Heatran
Empoleon
Lucario


N since u guys want to know about my bronzong

these are its moves

Bronzong @ Occa Berry
Ability - Levitate
Nature - Impish
EV - HP55~Def255~Sp.Def200
- Hypnosis
- Light Screen
- Rain Dance
- Gyro Ball

before I end this I want to tell U something the reason why I teach rain dance because of 2 things No.1 First of all when the opponent uses a fire type move the damage will be cut into 1/2 and the second thing is that my other pokemon can survive with one fire type move when there is rain dance and the reason why I also teach Light screen is that sometimes when they used a fire type move most of the time it will be like 3/8 is fire physical base moves and 5/8 is fire special base moves and special base moves will be cut into 1/4 i guess I think thats all for that and thanks :P :P ..... ~

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cool a 1 wildcard pokemon thanks i bet that didn`t know that! But by the way (what did u mean by wildcard pokemon?) :?:

And 1 More Thing i am showing my new steel team for now!


Bronzong
Magnezone
Scizor
Heatran
Empoleon
Lucario


N since u guys wnat to know about my bronzong

these are its moves

Bronzong @ Occa Berry
Ability - Levitate
Nature - Impish
EV - HP55~Def255~Sp.Def200
- Hypnosis
- Light Screen
- Rain Dance
- Gyro Ball

before I end this I want to tell U something the reason why I teach rain dance because of 2 things No.1 First of all when the opponent uses a fire type move the damage will be cut into 1/2 and the second thing is that my other pokemon can survive with one fire type move when there is rain dance and the reason why I also teach Light screen is that sometimes when they used a fire type move most of the time it will be like 3/8 is fire physical base moves and 5/8 is fire special base moves and special base moves will be cut into 1/4 i guess I think thats all for that and thanks :P :P ..... ~


With Heatran and Empoleon you don't have to worry too, too much about Fire moves, to be honest. Although Rain Dance isn't a BAD idea anyway.

Empoleon or Lucario is what I would say is your "weak link" at the moment. replace one of them with your wildcard. Preferably something that resists Fighting, Ground, and Fire. If you're going the route of Rain Dance, Zapdos sounds like a good Idea (Thunder FTW).
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Wild card means another type of pokemon.

Example: You have a steel team. You could have a flying type on your team too.
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