You would not believe your eyes....

Subject: You would not believe your eyes.... Sat Jul 17, 2010 5:04 am

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You would not believe your eyes.... Dpmfa392

Obama (M) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 4 Atk/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Naive nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Fake Out
- Fire Blast
- Stealth Rock
- Close Combat

~Lead Ape is Lead Ape, covers most other leads and takes them down usually getting rocks up. Has trouble with Machamp if it can't hit through confusion.

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You would not believe your eyes.... Dpmfa330

10000Fireflies (Flygon) (M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- U-turn
- Earthquake
- Outrage
- Stone Edge

~You would not believe your eyes... Flygon rapes face with prediction involved~

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Togekiss (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SDef
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Air Slash
- Thunder Wave
- Roost
- Nasty Plot

~HAX WILL MAKE YOU DC~

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You would not believe your eyes.... Dpmfa385

Zidane (Jirachi) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Thunderpunch
- U-turn
- Iron Head
- Zen Headbutt

~Zen Headbutt is there for Rotom coverage. U-turn to Flygon U-TURN U-TURN U-TURN!~

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You would not believe your eyes.... Dpmfa472

Gliscor (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Veil
EVs: 252 HP/40 Def/216 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Taunt
- Roost
- Night Slash/U-Turn

~I chose Night Slash because it loses to Rotom-A late game~

You would not believe your eyes.... Dpmfa245

You would not believe your eyes.... Dpmfa245

Suicune @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 228 HP/64 Def/216 Spd
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Surf
- Ice Beam/ Hidden Power Electric
- Substitute
- Calm Mind

~Sub CM catches people off guard and is walled by Vaporeon but Gliscor taunt kills Vaporeon.

This is a very good team.

Subject: Re: You would not believe your eyes.... Sat Jul 17, 2010 10:08 am

THARLES ACTUALLY MADEA LEGIT POST!? OMFGWTFBBQHAX!?

Subject: Re: You would not believe your eyes.... Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:00 pm

Its 10 million not 10 thousand faggit

Posts : 37 Join date : 2009-07-29

SO ITS SO SRS IT BURNS MAH EYEZ!!!

Subject: Re: You would not believe your eyes.... Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:02 pm

ur team is very weak to arceus.

Posts : 8 Join date : 2010-07-29

use a Azel Lead

It this move set :

-T-Bolt
-Fire Puch
-SR
-GrassKnot

i use and i take 3 pokemons of the other tema down

Subject: Re: You would not believe your eyes.... Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:11 pm

~vava18 wrote:: use a Azel Lead

It this move set :

-T-Bolt
-Fire Puch
-SR
-GrassKnot

i use and i take 3 pokemons of the other tema down

Give reasons why to use this set and even if you don't do that, give EVs and Nature one should use. This rate is lacking.

Posts : 8 Join date : 2010-07-29

Azelf @ focus sash
Naive nature
255 EV Att ; 255 Speed
-T-Bolt
-Fire Puch
-SR
-GrassKnot

Is this move set u take out many leadrs , like Roserdade , Aerodactly , Swapert , is just a idea , i use and i win because of this llead

Posts : 868 Join date : 2009-04-30 Age : 27

~vava18 wrote:: Azelf @ focus sash
Naive nature
255 EV Att ; 255 Speed
-T-Bolt
-Fire Puch
-SR
-GrassKnot

Is this move set u take out many leadrs , like Roserdade , Aerodactly , Swapert , is just a idea , i use and i win because of this llead

Please learn the metagame properly before making the comment. Roserade beats it through Sleep Powder and sets up all over it. A smart Aero user will Rock Slide twice for the KO. Most Perts switch out to Rotom or Gengars fearing the Explosion, which resists grass knot and they're very light to begin with. Also the EVs really aren't amazing. You would have more success using Flamethrower, with Timid nature and a spread of 252 Sp Atk / 252 Spe / 4 HP. Dude, in plain this rate sucks outright. Almost any lead beats it. The only thing that comes to mind that it beats is Pert who I mentioned earlier. Jirachi, Metagross, Roserade, Heatran and many others laugh at you. This thing sucks. Standard Azelf is just better. Dude, use common sense. Or at least good grammar.

Subject: Re: You would not believe your eyes.... Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:19 pm

Amphy wrote:

~vava18 wrote:: Azelf @ focus sash
Naive nature
255 EV Att ; 255 Speed
-T-Bolt
-Fire Puch
-SR
-GrassKnot

Is this move set u take out many leadrs , like Roserdade , Aerodactly , Swapert , is just a idea , i use and i win because of this llead

Please learn the metagame properly before making the comment. Roserade beats it through Sleep Powder and sets up all over it. A smart Aero user will Rock Slide twice for the KO. Most Perts switch out to Rotom or Gengars fearing the Explosion, which resists grass knot and they're very light to begin with. Also the EVs really aren't amazing. You would have more success using Flamethrower, with Timid nature and a spread of 252 Sp Atk / 252 Spe / 4 HP. Dude, in plain this rate sucks outright. Almost any lead beats it. The only thing that comes to mind that it beats is Pert who I mentioned earlier. Jirachi, Metagross, Roserade, Heatran and many others laugh at you. This thing sucks. Standard Azelf is just better. Dude, use common sense. Or at least good grammar.

This.

Subject: Re: You would not believe your eyes.... Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:44 am

Amphy wrote:

~vava18 wrote:: Azelf @ focus sash
Naive nature
255 EV Att ; 255 Speed
-T-Bolt
-Fire Puch
-SR
-GrassKnot

Is this move set u take out many leadrs , like Roserdade , Aerodactly , Swapert , is just a idea , i use and i win because of this llead

Please learn the metagame properly before making the comment. Roserade beats it through Sleep Powder and sets up all over it. A smart Aero user will Rock Slide twice for the KO. Most Perts switch out to Rotom or Gengars fearing the Explosion, which resists grass knot and they're very light to begin with. Also the EVs really aren't amazing. You would have more success using Flamethrower, with Timid nature and a spread of 252 Sp Atk / 252 Spe / 4 HP. Dude, in plain this rate sucks outright. Almost any lead beats it. The only thing that comes to mind that it beats is Pert who I mentioned earlier. Jirachi, Metagross, Roserade, Heatran and many others laugh at you. This thing sucks. Standard Azelf is just better. Dude, use common sense. Or at least good grammar.

To extend on this fabulous rate, I'd like to elaborate by saying that vava here has attempted to put more EVs into his spread then can be obtained. It's 252, not 255 buddy. Not only that, but half of those EVs were placed into attack when he doesn't even have a regular attacking move.

Subject: Re: You would not believe your eyes.... Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:49 pm

ch4rg3rs4lyf wrote:

Amphy wrote:

~vava18 wrote:: Azelf @ focus sash
Naive nature
255 EV Att ; 255 Speed
-T-Bolt
-Fire Puch
-SR
-GrassKnot

Is this move set u take out many leadrs , like Roserdade , Aerodactly , Swapert , is just a idea , i use and i win because of this llead

Please learn the metagame properly before making the comment. Roserade beats it through Sleep Powder and sets up all over it. A smart Aero user will Rock Slide twice for the KO. Most Perts switch out to Rotom or Gengars fearing the Explosion, which resists grass knot and they're very light to begin with. Also the EVs really aren't amazing. You would have more success using Flamethrower, with Timid nature and a spread of 252 Sp Atk / 252 Spe / 4 HP. Dude, in plain this rate sucks outright. Almost any lead beats it. The only thing that comes to mind that it beats is Pert who I mentioned earlier. Jirachi, Metagross, Roserade, Heatran and many others laugh at you. This thing sucks. Standard Azelf is just better. Dude, use common sense. Or at least good grammar.

To extend on this fabulous rate, I'd like to elaborate by saying that vava here has attempted to put more EVs into his spread then can be obtained. It's 252, not 255 buddy. Not only that, but half of those EVs were placed into attack when he doesn't even have a regular attacking move.

Fire Punch is a physical move. Not to steal your thunder, Luky, but you CAN have 255 EVs in a stat, but it doesn't make a difference in the amount because 4 EVs = 1 extra point. For example, 252 EVs in Attack on Adamant Scizor leaves Scizor at 394, but if you invest 255 EVs in Attack on that same Scizor, you still have 394, because 255-252 is 3, which is less than 4. So bottom line, you can have 255 EVs in a stat, but it's foolish, as the extra 6 EV that you've wasted can be used in a different stat.

Oh, and by the way, Amphy GG'd you, vava.

Subject: Re: You would not believe your eyes.... Sat Jul 31, 2010 4:46 pm

I just noticed that zapdos really hurts this team if it carries HP ice. not many do anymore because mence is gone, but take caution when you see a zapdos

Posts : 868 Join date : 2009-04-30 Age : 27

Maybe change the Suicune to a CM Raikou? It's a lot faster and so it would be better for the job.

Raikou @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Shadow Ball

It gives you another Ground weakness but with 3 immunities I think you'd be alright. Also I'd recommend changing Zen Headbut on Ice Punch for DD Nite.