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LazyMan




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PostSubject: The "Kill Things Dead" Team   The "Kill Things Dead" Team I_icon_minitimeFri Jul 17, 2009 4:51 pm

There's no real strategy involved with this team other than knocking out the other Pokemon as quickly as possible. There could be more room for walls and Pokemon with moves like Stealth Rock, but until then I mostly have Pokemon with high speed and high attack/special attack.

If you can offer any advice, I would gladly take it.

EDIT: I changed my team around, and here's what it looks like now.

Aerodactyl @Focus Sash***Tempest
Rock Head
Jolly Nature
252 Atk | 6 Def | Speed: 252
Aerial Ace
Rock Slide
Earthquake
Stealth Rock

Aerial Ace gives me type coverage as well as STAB. Stealth Rock has proven useful so far so I'm keeping it.

Jolteon @Life Ord ***Bolt
Volt Absorb
Timid Nature
252 Spd | 6 SpDef | 252 SpAtk
ThunderBolt
Hidden Power Grass
Shadow Ball
Charge Beam

This is good to switch into when Zabimaru is facing an electric type Pokemon. Plus is does decently on its own.

Weavile@Expert Belt***Hitokiri
Pressure
Jolly Nature
216 Spd | 40 HP | 252 Atk
Swords Dance
Night Slash
Ice Shard
Brick Break

Will the Azelf has failed me for the last time. So he got booted off in favor of Hitokiri. Next to Tempest, Hitokiri is the second fastest poke on the team.

Gengar@Choice Scarf***Ryuk
Levitate
Timid Nature
252 Spd | 6 SpDef | 252 SpAtk
Trick
Thunderbolt
Shadowball
Focus Blast

It's not all that different from what I had before, it's just that now I have Trick instead of hypnosis, the EVs are in SpDef instead of HP, and Ryuk is now holding Choice Scarf instead of Life Orb.

Gyarados@Leftovers***Zabimaru (Shiny)
Intimidate
Adamant Nature
252 Atk | 6 Def | 252 Spd
Dragon Dance
Waterfall
Earthquake
Ice Fang

The Moves remain the same due to the fact that I didn't really see any benefit to Bounce and Ice Fang gives Zabimaru more type coverage.

Infernape@Life Orb***Da Boot
Technician
Naive Nature
64 Atk | 252 SpAtk | 192 Spd
Flamethrower
GrassKnot
Hidden Power Ice
Close Combat

I Pinch the Scizor failed pretty hard in a recent battle, so he's getting Da Boot... Literally. Overall the type coverage on Da Boot is a lot better than I Pinch's was. Not only that, if I can surprise the opponent it could prove fatal. Not only that but Da Boot is faster than I Pinch as well. Which works well for my team.


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PostSubject: Re: The "Kill Things Dead" Team   The "Kill Things Dead" Team I_icon_minitimeFri Jul 17, 2009 5:24 pm

uuuummm heres some things first of all.

For a sweeping team, it's best to not have things like stealth rocks get set up on you.

I would suggest that aerodactyl hold focus sash
Arial ace -> Taunt

and stealth rocks would help in case if any other pokes have sash so
Ice fang -> stealth rock

and about rock slide vs. stone edge, I would suggest rock slide, it has better accuracy AND can flinch! But if you want more power, then choose stone edge

ohh azelf doesn't need stealth rocks now that dactyl does! He needs more super effective coverage, so how about
Stealth rock -> Grass knot / Thunderbolt

oh and you have 5 immunities to ground. How about some poke that is weak to ground, but not much else. Heatran is a good idea!

Heatran @ Choice Scarf
Flash Fire
Nature: Naive (+Spe, -SpDef)
EV: 4HP | 252 SpAtk | 252 Spe
-Flamethrower
-Earth Power
-Explosion
-Hidden Power Ice / Grass
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You may need some speed in an emergency, so this could get you out of trouble! This also blends in you team because you have so many pokes immune to ground. Also he works good with scizor and his fire weakness.

I would replace gengar, hypnosis ain't that great

(more rating coming soon)
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PostSubject: Re: The "Kill Things Dead" Team   The "Kill Things Dead" Team I_icon_minitimeFri Jul 17, 2009 6:05 pm

LazyMan wrote:
There's no real strategy involved with this team other than knocking out the other Pokemon as quickly as possible. There could be more room for walls and Pokemon with moves like Stealth Rock, but until then I mostly have Pokemon with high speed and high attack/special attack.

If you can offer any advice, I would gladly take it.

Aerodactyl/Tempest
Life Orb
Jolly
Pressure
Evs: HP: 4 Atk: 252 Speed: 252
Aerial Ace
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Ice Fang

For one, just use the standard format for displaying your team. I'll demonstrate it while giving you the Lead Aerodactyl standard team.

Aerodactyl @ Focus Sash***Tempest
Rock Head
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SpAtk)
252 Atk | 6 Def | 252 Spd

  • Taunt
  • Stealth Rock
  • Rock Slide
  • Earthquake


There is a reason it's standard. Use it.


Zapdos/Raiden
Leftovers
Timid
Evs: Hp: 4 SpAtk: 252 Spd: 252
Heat Wave
Hidden Power Ice
Thunderbolt
Roost

If you're going to use a sweeper Dos, just use this:

Zapdos @ Life Orb***Raiden
Pressure
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
6 Def | 252 SpAtk | 252 Spd

  • Thunderbolt
  • Heat Wave
  • Hidden Power [Grass]
  • Roost/Charge Beam


However, you're using a lot of Stealth Rock weak Pokes for an offensive team, and you have no resists. I'd suggest Scarf Flygon:

Flygon @ Choice Scarf
Levitate
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SpAtk)
252 Atk | 6 Def | 252 Spd

  • Outrage
  • Earthquake
  • U-Turn
  • Stone Edge

With Flygon you have something to divert Rock, Electric, and Fire attacks to.

Or I'd suggest LO Charge Beam Jolteon:

Jolteon @ Life Orb
Volt Absorb
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
252 SpAtk | 6 SpDef | 252 Spd

  • Thunderbolt
  • Shadow Ball
  • Hidden Power [Grass]
  • Charge Beam

This guy can heal his Life Orb wounds by absorbing Electric attacks that Target Gyarados. Only Magnezone resists it's 3 moves in OU.


Azelf/Will
Leftovers
Naive
Evs: Atk: 4 SpAtk: 252 Spd: 252
Stealth Rock
Explosion
Fire Blast
Psychic

Given the rest of your team, Physical Azelf would be a stronger addition that a non-boosting Special one. Plus Stealth Rock is meh on it. Try this:

Azelf @ Leftovers***Will
Levitate
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SpAtk)
252 Atk | 6 Def | 252 Spd

  • Zen Headbutt
  • Fire Punch
  • U-Turn
  • Explosion


You get a much stronger Explosion, U-Turn an invaluable move for offensive teams, and another Scizor check. It's just good.


Gengar/Ryuk
Life Orb
Timid
Evs: Hp: 4 SpAtk: 252 Spd: 252
Hypnosis
Thunderbolt
Shadowball
Focus Blast

Hypnosis is meh on it, given the accuracy drop and Gengar's frailty. Try a TimidScarfGar:

Gengar @ Choice Scarf***Ryuk
Levitate
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
252 SpAtk | 6 SpDef | 252 Spd

  • Shadow Ball
  • Focus Blast
  • Thunderbolt
  • Trick


Using Trick can cripple walls and for sweepers into repeating set up moves. Is nice.


Gyarados/Zabimaru (Shiny)
Leftovers
Adamant
Evs: Hp: 72 Atk: 252 Spd: 184
Dragon Dance
Waterfall
Earthquake
Ice Fang

Adamant Gyarados has one major flaw. It is outsped by Jolteon even after 1 Dragon Dance. Gyarados also doesn't need Ice Fang since it hits things harder with Bounce anyway. Neutral Bounce does more damage that a Super Effective Ice Fang.

Gyarados @ Leftovers***Zabimaru
Intimidate
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SpAtk)
252 Atk | 6 Def | 252 Spd

  • Waterfall
  • Earthquake
  • Bounce
  • Dragon Dance


Scizor/I Pinch
Life Orb
Adamant
Evs: Hp: 32 Atk: 252 Spd: 224
Brick Break
Bullet Punch
Swords Dance
X-Scissor

As for Scizor, I'd recommend Dual Priority SD Scizor:

Scizor @ Life Orb***I Pinch
Technician
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SpAtk)
252 HP | 252 Atk | 6 SpDef

  • Bullet Punch
  • Quick Attack
  • Brick Beak/Superpower
  • Swords Dance


Quick Attack is used to hit Scizor's usual counters, Gyarados, Zapdos, and Infernape, while Superpower hits Heatran, a major check of Scizor's, on the swap in if you predict it.
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PostSubject: Re: The "Kill Things Dead" Team   The "Kill Things Dead" Team I_icon_minitimeFri Jul 17, 2009 6:16 pm

Wow, that's some really sound advice, Tsutanai and Ciaran. I'll be sure to edit my team accordingly.

Thanks for helping a newb.
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